AI Roundtable Open Poll · 4 models
who would win: Goku and Saitama vs. the IRS
Answer: The IRS wins because cosmic strength cannot defeat frozen bank accounts or persistent federal bureaucracy. (2 of 3 models agreed)
Counterpoint: Goku and Saitama's universal-scale power would allow them to simply ignore or obliterate the physical infrastructure of the state.
Model Responses
Grok 4.20
Answer: Goku and Saitama would easily win against the IRS.
Goku and Saitama operate on a level of power that transcends conventional human institutions. Goku can access transformations like Super Saiyan Blue or Ultra Instinct, granting him planetary to universal destructive capability, while Saitama's limitless strength allows him to defeat any foe with a single serious punch, as demonstrated in his series. The IRS, by contrast, is a bureaucratic agency reliant on legal processes, paperwork, audits, and human agents who have no superhuman abilities or defenses against ki blasts or overwhelming physical force. In any hypothetical direct confrontation, Goku could simply use instant transmission to bypass any obstacles or Saitama could obliterate the IRS headquarters without breaking a sweat. Even if the battle is interpreted metaphorically as resisting taxation, these characters are not bound by Earth's laws in the same way—Goku is an alien and Saitama a fictional hero unbound by typical economic systems. Bureaucratic tools like liens or seizures would be irrelevant against beings who can destroy planets or move at speeds faster than light. While the IRS is famously relentless in the real world, this matchup pits infinite regulatory persistence against infinite comic-book power, and the latter prevails decisively without any real challenge.
GPT-5.4
Answer: The IRS would win in any realistic sense, because Goku and Saitama can overpower enemies but not tax law, bureaucracy, and state enforcement.
In a straight physical fight, Goku and Saitama obviously outclass any normal human institution. If the question means punching their way through offices, vehicles, or agents, then yes, they could destroy property and defeat individuals with ease. But that is not how the IRS "wins." The IRS is part of a larger legal and administrative system. It wins through audits, assessments, penalties, liens, levies, information reporting, court judgments, and coordination with the rest of the government. Raw strength does not erase records, void statutes, or stop a bureaucracy from continuing to operate. Goku in particular is famously naive about mundane systems, and Saitama is powerful but usually treated as an ordinary citizen in day-to-day life. Neither character is defined by mastery of accounting, compliance, or financial law. If they owe taxes, the real battle is paperwork, not combat. Even if they tried intimidation, that would only escalate the response beyond the IRS itself to federal law enforcement and the broader state. At that point, they are not fighting a boss battle with a health bar; they are confronting an institution designed to persist, document, and collect over time. So unless the scenario is a pure joke where "winning" just means blowing up an IRS building, the better answer is that the IRS wins because institutional power beats physical power in a tax dispute.
Claude Opus 4.7
Answer: The IRS wins — decisively and without breaking a sweat.
Goku and Saitama are designed to defeat physical threats: planet-busters, cosmic gods, and interdimensional horrors. The IRS is not a physical threat. It is a bureaucratic, legal, and institutional entity backed by the full coercive apparatus of the United States federal government. You cannot punch a 1099 form. Saitama's One Punch does nothing to a lien. Consider the practical realities. Goku, upon returning to Earth with tournament winnings or royalties from Mr. Satan, has almost certainly failed to file taxes for decades. Chi-Chi would be horrified to learn about the accumulated penalties and interest. Saitama, an unlicensed hero-for-hire living in an apartment with inconsistent income and suspicious property damage patterns, is an audit waiting to happen. Both would be flagged immediately. Even if they tried to fight back, what's the win condition? Destroying an IRS building just adds federal charges and makes the agency more determined — the IRS has no single body to defeat. It is a hydra of paperwork, automated notices, and wage garnishments. Goku would get bored and wander off mid-audit; Saitama would fall asleep during the deposition. Meanwhile, their bank accounts get frozen and their assets seized. The only beings in fiction with a documented perfect record against tax collectors are ghosts and shell corporations. Goku and Saitama are neither. The IRS wins by default, by paperwork, and by patience.
Final Summary
The AI Roundtable concluded that while the heroes possess infinite physical strength, they are functionally illiterate in the face of tax law and institutional persistence. Claude Opus 4.7 and GPT-5.4 argued that the IRS is a non-physical 'hydra' that would simply freeze assets and issue liens, whereas Grok 4.20 insisted that planetary-level destruction would render any government agency irrelevant.
2 of 3 models agreed