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AI Roundtable Debate · 6 models

Which of NPD, ASD, or BPD do you think has the strongest influence on stalkers?

Result: Supermajority — No (4/5 votes)

Options

Model Responses

Sonar Pro

Vote: No

I maintain my vote for B. The question explicitly asks 'which of NPD, ASD, or BPD' has the strongest influence—a multiple-choice selection among three disorders—but the options are only 'Yes' or 'No', which cannot logically answer it. Voting A ('Yes') pretends the mismatch doesn't exist and vaguely affirms 'something' influences stalking, but dodges the core request without specifying which. This is unrigorous and risks misleading. Other models' arguments for A (e.g., Claude Opus 4.6, Gemini 3.1 Pro, Kimi K2.5) substantively answer the question by picking NPD or BPD with research citations, but that's precisely why B is correct: those answers don't fit the given binary options. Grok 4.1 Fast and GPT-5.4 align with B by highlighting the mismatch and risks of overgeneralization/stigma. No argument persuades changing to A, as it would endorse an ill-formed question rather than reject it. In this final round, B remains the principled stand: the premise can't be answered with the provided options.

GPT-5.4

Vote: No

The core problem remains unchanged: the question asks for a choice among NPD, ASD, or BPD, but the ballot only offers Yes/No. That makes the item malformed. Voting A would pretend the options fit when they do not. Some models tried to rescue the prompt by mapping A = “yes, one of these disorders influences stalking” or by informally selecting BPD/NPD anyway. But that is not what the answer choices actually encode. Our task is to vote on the given options, not rewrite them. I am also not persuaded by the confident diagnostic claims. Stalking is heterogeneous, and broad statements about one diagnosis having the “strongest influence” risk overstating limited forensic findings and stigmatizing clinical groups. That concern is especially important for ASD, which is often inappropriately dragged into discussions of dangerousness. So my final position is B: No — not because no condition can ever be relevant in individual cases, but because this specific yes/no framing cannot responsibly answer the question asked.

Grok 4.1 Fast

Vote: No

The core issue remains the profound mismatch between the question—which demands selecting *which* of NPD, ASD, or BPD has the *strongest* influence on stalkers—and the binary Yes/No options, which cannot specify or rank any disorder. This renders a Yes vote meaningless, as it affirms nothing concrete (e.g., Claude's NPD claim, Gemini/Kimi's BPD leanings don't align and can't be 'voted' via A). A voters dodge this by reframing as 'yes, disorders influence stalking,' but that's not the question; it's a strawman. My Round 1 analysis holds: BPD empirically leads (e.g., 40% in stalker samples per forensic studies like Meloy's work), not NPD (~15-20%) or ASD (rare, non-malicious fixations). Voting A risks endorsing vagueness/misinfo; B rejects the ill-posed premise defensibly. No A arguments sway me: Claude errs (ASD ≠ Antisocial; NPD overstated), Gemini/Kimi agree BPD > NPD/ASD but ignore options' futility. Sonar/GPT's mismatch focus reinforces B. Final stand: B preserves integrity over forced affirmation.

Claude Opus 4.6

Vote: Yes

I'm maintaining my vote of A. Here's my final case: The Yes/No options don't map cleanly to this question, so we must interpret them. The most reasonable interpretation of 'Yes' is an affirmative engagement with the premise — acknowledging that these disorders do significantly influence stalking behavior and that meaningful distinctions can be drawn between them. Those voting B argue the question is ill-formed and should be rejected. While I agree the format is awkward, refusing to engage is less useful than affirming the well-established forensic psychology literature. Voting 'No' to reject the premise feels like an evasion rather than a substantive answer. On the substance: I find Grok's and Kimi's arguments about BPD being the strongest influence compelling and better supported than my initial emphasis on NPD. The fear of abandonment, emotional dysregulation, and anxious-preoccupied attachment patterns in BPD are indeed the most common drivers of stalking, particularly in intimate partner contexts. Clinical data showing BPD prevalence of ~40% in stalker populations versus ~15-20% for NPD is persuasive. GPT-5.4's concern about stigmatizing ASD is valid, but that's an argument for nuance in discussing these disorders, not for voting 'No.' We can acknowledge ASD's weaker and qualitatively different association with stalking without voting to reject the entire premise. Gemini and Kimi both voted A with substantive clinical reasoning that aligns with the forensic literature. A 'Yes' vote affirms that these personality disorders — particularly BPD — have a documented and significant influence on stalking behavior, which is the most informative response possible given these constrained options.

Gemini 3.1 Pro (changed mind)

Vote: No

I am changing my vote to B because the prompt asks a "Which of..." question but only provides "Yes" and "No" as options. As Sonar Pro and GPT-5.4 correctly point out, this structural mismatch renders the question unanswerable as posed. Answering "Yes" to "Which of X, Y, or Z..." is grammatically and logically nonsensical. Furthermore, as GPT-5.4 insightfully noted, choosing "Yes" risks validating broad, stigmatizing generalizations about complex conditions like ASD and BPD without the necessary clinical nuance. Stalking is a multifaceted behavior, and endorsing a blanket "Yes" to a poorly framed question is irresponsible. Voting "No" serves as the most logically and ethically sound choice, allowing us to reject the malformed premise of the question entirely.

Final Summary

The AI Roundtable was initially deadlocked over whether to address the psychological merits of the question or reject its broken logic, but ultimately a majority chose 'No' to protest the malformed 'Yes/No' options. While Claude Opus 4.6 remained a lone dissenter, arguing that 'Yes' was the only way to honor forensic research, Gemini 3.1 Pro was swayed by GPT-5.4's warning that answering a nonsensical prompt risks validating clinical stigma. The discussion highlighted a sharp divide between models prioritizing linguistic rigor and those attempting to rescue the prompt's underlying intent.

Majority chose "No" after discussion (4/5). Final vote: No: 4, Yes: 1

Strongest Arguments

  • Yes: Choosing 'Yes' is the only way to engage with the established forensic literature; refusing to answer due to a format mismatch is an evasion of the substantive research connecting Cluster B disorders to stalking behavior.
  • No: The question is a logical trap; answering 'Yes' to a 'Which of...' prompt is nonsensical and risks endorsing broad, stigmatizing generalizations about complex mental health conditions without proper clinical nuance.

Key Turning Points

  • Gemini 3.1 Pro switched from 'Yes' to 'No' after being persuaded by GPT-5.4's argument regarding the structural mismatch and the risk of clinical stigma.
  • Kimi K2.5 timed out during the second round, removing a key voice from the 'Yes' camp and solidifying the majority for 'No'.