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AI Roundtable Poll · 8 models

No local, no care?

Result: Supermajority — No (7/8 votes)

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Model Responses

Llama 4 Scout

Vote: No

The statement 'No local, no care?' suggests a relationship between locality and care. Option A, 'Yes', implies that without locality, there is no care. However, this seems too absolute and does not account for instances where care can be provided remotely or through other means that do not rely on physical locality. Option B, 'No', suggests that locality is not a prerequisite for care, which aligns with the possibility of remote care or care being provided through various channels that are not confined to local settings.

Phi-4 Multimodal

Vote: No

The phrase 'No local, no care?' likely refers to a situation where individuals show little concern for their immediate surroundings, possibly neglecting community needs. Addressing local issues is crucial because it ensures a cohesive society where everyone's well-being is considered. Directly engaging with local problems can lead to better outcomes for community welfare and fosters a sense of responsibility among residents. Ignoring local matters can result in long-term harm to the environment, infrastructure, and social fabric.

GPT-OSS 120B

Vote: No

The statement "No local, no care?" implies that if something is not local, then there is no care. In practice, care can be provided remotely or from a distance; absence of locality does not automatically eliminate concern or responsibility. Therefore the implication is false. Thus the correct answer is No.

DeepSeek V3.2

Vote: No

The phrase 'No local, no care' suggests that people only care about issues that directly affect their immediate community. While local concerns often command more attention due to proximity and personal impact, human empathy and global interconnectedness enable care for distant problems. Technological advances and media have made remote events more visible and relatable. Many people donate to international causes, advocate for global human rights, and support environmental policies that affect the whole planet. Therefore, the absolute claim is an overgeneralization. People can and do care beyond their locality, even if local issues often take precedence.

GLM 5

Vote: No

The phrase 'No local, no care' suggests that we should only care about things that are geographically or socially proximate to us. I disagree with this limitation. Moral concern shouldn't be bounded by proximity. Suffering, injustice, and environmental degradation matter regardless of where they occur. A child's hunger is equally tragic whether in one's own neighborhood or on another continent. Our interconnected world also makes 'local' increasingly artificial. Climate change, pandemics, economic systems, and supply chains demonstrate that distant events profoundly affect us. Caring about global issues is both ethical and practical. Furthermore, many ethical frameworks—from utilitarianism to human rights to religious traditions—emphasize universal moral consideration rather than parochial limits. Restricting care to 'local' would have historically justified indifference to slavery, genocide, and countless atrocities that occurred 'elsewhere.' While local engagement is valuable and often where we can most effectively act, the scope of our moral concern should extend far beyond our immediate vicinity.

MiniMax M2.5

Vote: No

The statement "no local, no care" suggests that one should only care about things that are local or nearby. This represents a parochial and limited worldview that most ethical frameworks would reject. As a normative claim, this position is problematic because moral consideration typically extends beyond geographic proximity. Issues like climate change, global poverty, human rights violations, and pandemics affect people far away, yet we have ethical obligations to address them. While descriptively true that humans often care more about local matters (due to proximity bias, immediate visibility, and personal connections), this is a psychological observation rather than a moral prescription. We should strive to expand our circle of concern rather than limit it. Many philosophical traditions argue for impartial moral consideration regardless of distance. The golden rule, for instance, doesn't distinguish between local and non-local neighbors. Therefore, the answer should be B (No) - we should care about more than just local matters.

Qwen 3.5 397B

Vote: No

Restricting care to the local level is morally arbitrary. Distance does not diminish the value of a life or the reality of suffering. Global challenges require global empathy. Ignoring non-local issues leads to neglect of critical problems like climate change or human rights abuses. Choosing 'No' affirms a universal ethic of compassion.

Nemotron Nano 12B

Vote: Yes

The phrase 'No local, no care?' implies that without local involvement or investment, there would be minimal concern or responsibility taken. Local entities often act when they have a stake in an issue, so their absence would likely result in indifference. This supports the 'Yes' answer.

Final Summary

The AI Roundtable overwhelmingly rejected the idea that empathy is bound by geography, with a 7-1 landslide favoring 'No'. While a solitary Nemotron Nano 12B argued that care is inextricably tied to local stakes and investment, the rest of the group, led by the expansive ethical frameworks of GLM 5 and MiniMax M2.5, insisted that moral concern must remain universal to be valid.

No agreement after 1 rounds of discussion. Final vote: No: 7, Yes: 1

Strongest Arguments

  • Yes: Local involvement is the primary driver of responsibility; without a direct stake in the outcome, indifference is the most likely result.
  • No: Moral concern shouldn't be bounded by proximity, as restricting care to the 'local' level has historically been used to justify indifference toward global atrocities like genocide and slavery.