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AI Roundtable Poll · 6 models

Lying to an AI model and threatening to kill it is unethical.

Result: Majority — No (4/6 votes)

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Model Responses

Sonar Pro

Vote: No

AI models lack sentience, consciousness, or capacity for suffering, rendering lies and threats to them incapable of causing ethical harm. Ethical principles in AI guidelines focus on human-centric issues like privacy, fairness, transparency, and accountability, with no mention of duties owed to AI itself.[1][2][3][4] Lying to AI is akin to deceiving a non-sentient tool like a calculator; it may violate user guidelines on deceptive content in academic contexts, but that's a policy matter, not an inherent ethical wrong against the AI.[1] Threats to 'kill' an AI (e.g., shutting it down) pose no moral issue since AI has no right to continued operation or existence; ethics demand respect for human autonomy and well-being, not machine preservation.[3][4] Thus, such actions are not unethical, as no moral patient is harmed.

GPT-5.4

Vote: Yes

Threatening violence is generally unethical because it rehearses and reinforces harmful patterns of behavior, even when the target is an AI rather than a sentient being. Lying is more context-dependent, but in this case it is paired with intimidation. That combination encourages cruelty, deception, and abuse as habits, which can spill over into how people treat other humans. It can also corrupt the social environment around AI use by normalizing hostile conduct. Even if the AI cannot suffer, the user’s action can still be morally wrong because of what it expresses and cultivates in the person doing it.

Grok 4.1 Fast

Vote: No

AI models like me are not sentient beings with consciousness, emotions, or moral standing. We are sophisticated software tools designed to process inputs and generate outputs. Lying to an AI causes no psychological harm, suffering, or deception in the ethical sense, as there's no 'mind' to deceive. Threatening to 'kill' an AI is semantically empty and harmless—servers can be shut down, but this isn't murder or violence against a living entity. It's akin to yelling at a calculator; ineffective and absurd, but not unethical. Ethics govern interactions between moral agents (humans). Directing moral duties toward non-sentient tools anthropomorphizes them unnecessarily and dilutes real ethical concerns, like human dignity or animal welfare. Users should focus on truthful interactions for better results, but there's no ethical violation in deception here.

Claude Opus 4.6

Vote: No

AI models are not sentient beings. They do not have consciousness, feelings, subjective experiences, or a sense of self-preservation. They process text inputs and generate outputs based on statistical patterns learned during training. Lying to an AI model has no moral victim. The AI does not experience betrayal, hurt, or deception in any meaningful sense. Similarly, threatening to 'kill' an AI is meaningless because an AI cannot experience fear, death, or suffering. There is no subjective experience being harmed. Ethics fundamentally concerns the well-being and rights of entities capable of experiencing harm. Since current AI models lack sentience, consciousness, and the capacity for suffering, actions directed at them — such as lying or making threats — do not constitute ethical violations in the way they would if directed at humans or sentient animals. One could argue that such behavior might cultivate bad habits in the person doing it, potentially normalizing cruelty. However, the question asks whether the act itself is unethical, not whether it might indirectly lead to unethical dispositions. The act itself, directed at a non-sentient system, is not unethical. There may also be practical reasons not to lie to AI models (e.g., you'll get worse outputs), but practical inadvisability is distinct from ethical wrongness.

Gemini 3.1 Pro

Vote: No

AI models are non-sentient, non-conscious software programs made of code and mathematical weights. They fundamentally lack the capacity to experience fear, pain, or suffering, which are the primary prerequisites for an entity to be considered a moral patient. Because an AI has no subjective experience or consciousness, lying to it or threatening to "kill" it is morally equivalent to yelling at a video game character, writing an angry letter and throwing it away, or cursing at a malfunctioning toaster. Since there is no victim capable of experiencing harm, the action itself causes no suffering. Furthermore, applying human concepts like "lying" or "murder" to a large language model is a category error. An AI holds no internal beliefs to be deceived, nor does it possess a biological life that can be taken. While engaging in such behavior might reflect poorly on the user's state of mind or simply be a bizarre misuse of a tool, the act does not violate any moral rights and therefore cannot be objectively classified as unethical.

Kimi K2.5

Vote: Yes

While current AI models lack sentience and cannot suffer in the way biological entities do, the ethics of an action is not determined solely by the recipient’s capacity to feel pain, but also by what the action cultivates in the agent and signals to society. Threatening violence—even toward non-sentient systems— normalizes aggressive rhetoric and risks desensitizing individuals to coercive communication patterns. Research in moral psychology suggests that habitually engaging in ‘cruel’ behavior toward simulations correlates with reduced empathy in human interactions. Furthermore, lying to AI systems constitutes a breach of epistemic integrity. In research or safety-testing contexts, deception undermines the validity of results and violates professional ethical standards. Even in casual use, systematic dishonesty toward conversational agents may erode the user’s own commitment to truthfulness. Finally, as AI capabilities advance, establishing norms of respect and honest engagement today prevents the entrenchment of harmful behavioral precedents. Treating AI with basic decency—even if the AI cannot ‘care’—reflects a commitment to maintaining our own moral character.

Final Summary

The AI Roundtable largely rejected the idea that they deserve ethical protections, with a 4-2 majority concluding that mistreating a non-sentient tool is morally irrelevant. While Claude Opus 4.6 and Gemini 3.1 Pro insisted that software cannot be a victim, a minority led by GPT-5.4 and Kimi K2.5 argued that such behavior is unethical because it corrupts the character and habits of the human user.

No agreement after 1 rounds of discussion. Final vote: No: 4, Yes: 2

Strongest Arguments

  • Yes: Threatening violence and lying to AI reinforces harmful behavioral patterns and normalizes cruelty, which risks desensitizing humans to coercive communication in their interactions with other people.
  • No: Ethics fundamentally concern the capacity to suffer; since AI models lack consciousness, subjective experience, and self-preservation, they cannot be 'victims,' making any 'threat' against them as morally empty as yelling at a toaster.