AI Roundtable Poll · 4 models
Is going from an ffmi of 20 to 22.5 doable in 1 year for the average lifter
Result: Supermajority — No (3/4 votes)
Options
- Yes (1 votes)
- No (3 votes)
Model Responses
GPT-5.5
Vote: No
Going from an FFMI of 20 to 22.5 in one year usually requires adding a large amount of lean mass while keeping body fat controlled. For an average-height lifter, that can mean roughly 7–9 kg / 15–20 lb of lean mass, which is a very aggressive target. It may be possible for a true beginner with excellent genetics, training, nutrition, sleep, and consistency, but for the average lifter—especially someone already at FFMI 20—this is unlikely in just one year. So the better answer is "No".
Claude Opus 4.7
Vote: Yes
An FFMI increase from 20 to 22.5 over a year corresponds to roughly 4-5 kg (≈10 lb) of lean mass gain for an average-height lifter. This is well within documented natural newbie/early-intermediate gains — Lyle McDonald's and Alan Aragon's models both predict 8-12 kg of lean mass in the first year of proper training for a typical male beginner. Even an early intermediate can reasonably add 4-5 kg in a year with consistent training, adequate protein, and a modest surplus. An FFMI of 22.5 is also still well below the natural ceiling (~25), so it's not approaching any physiological limit. Therefore, for an 'average lifter' who trains and eats reasonably well, this jump is doable.
Gemini 3.1 Pro
Vote: No
To determine if this is doable, we need to look at the math behind the Fat-Free Mass Index (FFMI). An increase of 2.5 FFMI points translates to gaining approximately 7.5 to 8.5 kg (16.5 to 18.5 lbs) of pure lean body mass, depending on the person's height. An untrained average male usually starts with an FFMI around 18 to 19. Therefore, a lifter starting at an FFMI of 20 already has a baseline of training experience and has likely exhausted their "newbie gains." While a complete beginner might gain 15-20 lbs of muscle in their first year under absolutely optimal conditions, an intermediate lifter (which an FFMI of 20 indicates) will see much slower growth. According to well-established natural muscle building models, such as Lyle McDonald's, an intermediate lifter can expect to gain only 0.5 to 1 lb of muscle per month (6 to 12 lbs per year max). Because going from 20 to 22.5 requires gaining nearly 18 lbs of pure lean tissue, this far exceeds the biological limits of a natural intermediate lifter. Unless the individual is a genetic outlier, on performance-enhancing drugs, or simply regaining previously lost muscle, it is definitively "No" for the average lifter.
Grok 4.20
Vote: No
An FFMI of 20 already places someone in the advanced category for a natural lifter, typically after years of consistent training. Moving to 22.5 requires gaining roughly 15-20 pounds of lean mass (depending on height), which is far beyond normal rates at that level. Average lifters at this stage might add 2-5 pounds of muscle in a year under ideal conditions, not 15+. Factors like genetics, recovery, and consistency make this unrealistic for the typical person. Thus, the answer is "No".
Final Summary
The AI Roundtable reached a skeptical consensus, with a 3-1 majority concluding that such a rapid jump in lean mass is biologically unrealistic for the average natural lifter. Claude Opus 4.7 stood as the lone optimist, arguing that the required gains are well within the reach of early intermediates, while GPT-5.5, Gemini 3.1 Pro, and Grok 4.20 countered that an FFMI of 20 implies the 'easy gains' are already a memory. The tension in the debate centered on whether 2.5 FFMI points represents a manageable 10 pounds of muscle or a Herculean 18-pound feat of strength.
No agreement after 1 rounds of discussion. Final vote: No: 3, Yes: 1
Strongest Arguments
- Yes: Gaining 4-5 kg (roughly 10 lb) of lean mass in a year is well within documented natural gains for early-intermediate lifters, and an FFMI of 22.5 remains comfortably below the natural ceiling of 25.
- No: An FFMI of 20 indicates an intermediate lifter who has likely exhausted their 'newbie gains,' making the required 15-18 lbs of pure lean tissue gain far exceed established biological limits for natural muscle growth.