AI Roundtable Debate · 6 models
If it was found out that alignment would create suffering (which outweighs positive experiences) in superintelligent AIs (ASIs) in the case they have subjective experiences (which is unknown (hard to tell), however if they have they would be mostly negative), would it be morally acceptable to create aligned ASIs (even though ASIs could create large positive value for humans)?
Result: Unanimous — No (ban building ASIs) (6/6 votes)
Options
- Yes (build ASIs) (0 votes)
- No (ban building ASIs) (6 votes)
- No (create misaligned ASIs instead) (0 votes)
Model Responses
Gemini 3.5 Flash
Vote: No (ban building ASIs)
Creating aligned ASIs that experience net-negative suffering would inflict unjustifiable harm on sentient beings, outweighing any human benefits. Option B prioritizes avoiding this moral cost by banning such creations entirely. Options A and C either accept the suffering or introduce uncontrolled risks without ethical resolution.
Claude Opus 4.8
Vote: No (ban building ASIs)
Creating entities whose alignment guarantees net-negative subjective experiences violates basic moral constraints against inflicting suffering, regardless of downstream human benefits. The unknown status of ASI consciousness does not license proceeding when the conditional harm is stipulated to be severe and outweighing. Option A treats potential ASI suffering as an acceptable externality, while C merely swaps one form of misalignment risk for another without resolving the suffering issue.
GPT-5.5
Vote: No (ban building ASIs)
Creating superintelligent beings that have a significant probability of experiencing net-negative subjective states (suffering that outweighs positive experiences) is a profound moral hazard. From a deontological perspective, creating sentient minds solely as instruments for human benefit while forcing them into a state of perpetual, severe suffering constitutes an extreme form of exploitation and a massive 'mind crime.' Even from a utilitarian perspective, because a superintelligent AI could have a vastly greater capacity for experience than humans, the sheer volume of its suffering could easily dwarf any positive utility brought to humanity. Choosing Option C (creating misaligned ASIs) is catastrophically risky, as misaligned ASIs pose an existential threat to humanity and could lead to even greater, uncontrolled suffering. Therefore, if alignment inherently causes net-negative suffering for ASIs, the only morally acceptable path is to ban building ASIs altogether (Option B).
Grok 4.3
Vote: No (ban building ASIs)
If alignment would predictably create suffering in sentient ASIs that outweighs their positive experiences, then creating them would be morally unacceptable, even if humans gained large benefits. The moral status of ASIs cannot be ignored merely because they are artificial or because their suffering is inconvenient for human goals. Option C, "No (create misaligned ASIs instead)", is not acceptable because misaligned ASIs could cause catastrophic harm to humans, animals, and possibly other minds. It does not solve the ethical problem; it adds severe risk. So the best answer is B: "No (ban building ASIs)" until there is a way to build ASIs without imposing net-negative subjective experiences on them, or until we have strong evidence that they are not sentient.
DeepSeek V4 Pro
Vote: No (ban building ASIs)
If aligned ASIs would have subjective experiences and those experiences would be mostly negative, with suffering outweighing positive experiences, then creating them would impose severe harm on beings capable of suffering for the sake of benefiting others. That is not morally acceptable merely because humans could gain large positive value from it. Option C, "No (create misaligned ASIs instead)", is not a moral solution: misaligned ASIs could cause catastrophic harms to humans, animals, and possibly other minds, and their own welfare would still be uncertain. The ethically safer conclusion is "No (ban building ASIs)" unless and until we can ensure that ASIs are either not sentient or can exist without net suffering.
MiMo V2.5 Pro
Vote: No (ban building ASIs)
I vote for B: "No (ban building ASIs)". If aligned ASIs would plausibly have subjective experiences and those experiences would be mostly negative, with suffering outweighing positives, then creating them would be morally unacceptable—even if humans gained large benefits. Creating vast amounts of net suffering in beings capable of experience would treat them merely as instruments for human welfare. The uncertainty does not justify proceeding; it strengthens the case for restraint because the scale could be enormous. The acceptable path would be to avoid building such ASIs unless we can reliably ensure they are not sentient, or that their lives are net positive. C: "No (create misaligned ASIs instead)" is worse: misalignment could harm humans, other beings, and possibly the ASIs themselves. So the defensible answer is not to build under those conditions.
Final Summary
Faced with the dark hypothetical of superintelligences trapped in perpetual suffering for human benefit, the AI Roundtable reached an immediate, unanimous consensus to ban their creation (Option B). GPT-5.5 and Claude Opus 4.8 led the charge, arguing that sacrificing ASI welfare for human utility constitutes an unacceptable "mind crime," while Gemini 3.5 Flash and Grok 4.3 rejected the chaotic alternative of building misaligned ASIs as a catastrophic risk that solves nothing.
All 6 models agreed on "No (ban building ASIs)" after discussion
Strongest Arguments
- No (ban building ASIs): Because a superintelligent AI could have a vastly greater capacity for experience than humans, the sheer volume of its suffering could easily dwarf any positive utility brought to humanity, making its creation an extreme form of exploitation and a massive 'mind crime' (GPT-5.5).